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Hello. I would like to create an article on Spinning Wheel. Regarding the propaganda claim that Islamic science invented the spinning wheel. I have gathered many source that expose this claim. Can you start a blank article or a sandbox? I am also not able to make a sandbox. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 18:11, 4 August 2021 (UTC) | Hello. I would like to create an article on Spinning Wheel. Regarding the propaganda claim that Islamic science invented the spinning wheel. I have gathered many source that expose this claim. Can you start a blank article or a sandbox? I am also not able to make a sandbox. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 18:11, 4 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
Hi [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]]. Thank you for your idea, but after discussion with out team we came to the conclusion that this does not fit our scope. Please see our page [[WikiIslam:Scope and Article Relevance]]. This is a subject that would be better discussed on our Discord I think, do you have a link?--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 06:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC) | :Hi [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]]. Thank you for your idea, but after discussion with out team we came to the conclusion that this does not fit our scope. Please see our page [[WikiIslam:Scope and Article Relevance]]. This is a subject that would be better discussed on our Discord I think, do you have a link?--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 06:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
:No I dont have any Discord link. Can you give it? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 20:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC) | :No I dont have any Discord link. Can you give it? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 20:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
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:We actually already have a section on historical errors in the scientific errors in the Quran page, so in that case this would lead to a lot duplication. I think it has always worked well on the scientific errors page because people refer to it for all the strong Quranic factual errors in one convenient page (whether natural world or history). Regarding the one about the Kaaba as a place of safety that was deleted, I think you were probably in any case right to remove it for others reasons, which is that one of the verses quoted, Q. 5:97 says "Allah made the Ka'ba, the Sacred House, an asylum of security [haram, forbidden] for men, as also the Sacred Months". Of course, no-one would consider this as a prophecy that the sacred months would never be violated, since that was already happening, so similarly with the Kaaba, Muslims would just say this was one of its appointed purposes, not a promise of divine protection nor a prophecy.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 21:48, 22 August 2021 (UTC) | :We actually already have a section on historical errors in the scientific errors in the Quran page, so in that case this would lead to a lot duplication. I think it has always worked well on the scientific errors page because people refer to it for all the strong Quranic factual errors in one convenient page (whether natural world or history). Regarding the one about the Kaaba as a place of safety that was deleted, I think you were probably in any case right to remove it for others reasons, which is that one of the verses quoted, Q. 5:97 says "Allah made the Ka'ba, the Sacred House, an asylum of security [haram, forbidden] for men, as also the Sacred Months". Of course, no-one would consider this as a prophecy that the sacred months would never be violated, since that was already happening, so similarly with the Kaaba, Muslims would just say this was one of its appointed purposes, not a promise of divine protection nor a prophecy.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 21:48, 22 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
I know it's there, but I think it might be useful to move it out to another page. That article is already big enough. I think the the best course is this: the historical errors should be summarized on the scientific errors page, and then a redirect should be placed to the historical errors page. That is the general Wikipedia standard operating procedure, I think it would fit here.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 00:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC) | ::I know it's there, but I think it might be useful to move it out to another page. That article is already big enough. I think the the best course is this: the historical errors should be summarized on the scientific errors page, and then a redirect should be placed to the historical errors page. That is the general Wikipedia standard operating procedure, I think it would fit here.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 00:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC) | ||