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→‎Qur'an: have added in the story on Al-Khidr and Moses which is describes predestination and seems to make a mockery of free will. I have also left a YouTube video worth watching covering this topic from an ex-muslim YouTuber.

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 {{Quote|{{Quran-range|81|28|29}}|Unto whomsoever of you willeth to walk straight. '''And ye will not, unless (it be) that Allah willeth''', the Lord of Creation. }}
+=== Allah knows children will become disbelievers ===
+In the story of Moses and Al-Khidr found in Surah Al-Kahf (Chapter 18, verses 60-82), Al-Khidhr (named as a servant of God who [Allah] taught special knowledge) murders a child, with the reason being given that he will cause hardship to his parents through disbelief, so that he may replace him with a more faithful one.
+{{Quote|{{Quran|18|65-81}}|18:65 And they found a servant from among Our servants to whom we had given mercy from us and had taught him from Us a [certain] knowledge.
+:66 Moses said to him, “May I follow you on [the condition] that you teach me from what you have been taught of sound judgement?”
+:67 He said, “Indeed, with me you will never be able to have patience.
+:68 And how can you have patience for what you do not encompass in knowledge?”
+:69 [Moses] said, “You will find me, if Allah wills, patient, and I will not disobey you in [any] order.”
+:70 He said, “Then if you follow me, do not ask me about anything until I make to you about it mention.”
+:71 So they set out, until when they had embarked on the ship, al-Khidr tore it open. [Moses] said, “Have you torn it open to drown its people? You have certainly done a grave thing.”
+:72 [Al-Khidr] said, “Did I not say that with me you would never be able to have patience?”
+:73 [Moses] said, “Do not blame me for what I forgot and do not cover me in my matter with difficulty.”
+<b>18:74 So they set out, until when they met a boy, al-Khidr killed him. [Moses] said, “Have you killed a pure soul for other than [having killed] a soul? You have certainly done a deplorable thing.”
+:75 [Al-Khidr] said, “Did I not tell you that with me you would never be able to have patience?”
+:76 [Moses] said, “If I should ask you about anything after this, then do not keep me as a companion. You have obtained from me an excuse.” </b>
+:77 So they set out, until when they came to the people of a town, they asked its people for food, but they refused to offer them hospitality. And they found therein a wall about to collapse, so al-Khidr restored it. [Moses] said, “If you wished, you could have taken for it a payment.”
+:78 [Al-Khidr] said, “This is parting between me and you. I will inform you of the interpretation of that about which you could not have patience.
+:79 As for the ship, it belonged to poor people working at sea. So I intended to cause defect in it as there was after them a king who seized every [good] ship by force.
+<b> 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.
+:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. </b>}}
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+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlp2rajAgzw Hassan Radwan - Khidr & Killing of the Boy] - YouTube Video
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