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{{Quote|{{Quran|25|53}}|It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.}} | {{Quote|{{Quran|25|53}}|It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.}} | ||
* | * Problem - the seas do mix - get source, there is no barrier between them - the definition of a barrier is literally something that blocks (so has been stretched here) | ||
* Partition forbidden to pass - uses term for never - however entre sealine changes over time | * Partition forbidden to pass - uses term for never - however entre sealine changes over time with rivers broken down and destroyed - and current 'seas' 'barrier' breaks down over time | ||
* This happens everywhere - why talking about two seas - historical context | * This happens everywhere all across the world - why talking about two seas with 'al' particle (happens with all sweet and salty water/less dense water) - historical context | ||
*Doesn't say riverنھر (Nahar) - although to be fair every large body of water was referred to using this word in classical Arabic. A specific word for ocean or lake did not exist either. | *Doesn't say riverنھر (Nahar) - although to be fair every large body of water was referred to using this word in classical Arabic. A specific word for ocean or lake did not exist either. | ||
*Salt vs seawater - is estuary water sweet and palatable or filled with dirt? | |||
*Much better ways to write this verse that would actually fit with the science (give examples) | |||
*Link historical context of premeal waters to the whale story too | |||
*Scientific claim - quran says absolutely nothing about different densities, hence no-one ever thought it did until many years after the discovery - Scientist William Hayes denouncing miracle claim | |||
{{Quran|55|22}} quoted below states that coral emerge from both seas. However, coral are found only in salt water oceans, and exposure to freshwater leads to coral bleaching. | {{Quran|55|22}} quoted below states that coral emerge from both seas. However, coral are found only in salt water oceans, and exposure to freshwater leads to coral bleaching. | ||
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18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. | 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. | ||
18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.}} | 18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.}} | ||
* Someone who has this foresight makes sense coming from god's sea - and disappears there after Moses keeps asking questions | |||
* Not actually named in Quran (only called a servant of God)- only hadith name him | |||