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==== Wind & rain ==== | ==== Wind & rain ==== | ||
Wind is seen as a sign of God {{Quran|35|9}} ((Q 35:9)) rather than from heat differences,<ref>[https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wind/ Wind explained.] U.S Energy information Administration. Last reviewed December 2023. </ref> and bringing down rain rather than within a cloud, water droplets condense onto one another, causing the droplets to grow. When these water droplets get too heavy to stay suspended in the cloud, they fall to Earth as rain. | Wind is seen as a sign of God {{Quran|35|9}} ((Q 35:9)) rather than from heat differences,<ref>[https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wind/ Wind explained.] U.S Energy information Administration. Last reviewed December 2023. </ref> and bringing down rain rather than within a cloud, water droplets condense onto one another, causing the droplets to grow. When these water droplets get too heavy to stay suspended in the cloud, they fall to Earth as rain.<ref>[https://www.britannica.com/science/water-cycle Water Cycle Entry] - Britannica | ||
[https://scijinks.gov/rain/ What Makes It Rain?] Water and Ice. NOAA SciJinks.gov </ref> (cf: {{Quran|43|11}}). | |||
[https://scijinks.gov/rain/ What Makes It Rain?] Water and Ice. NOAA SciJinks.gov </ref> | |||
==== Lightning ==== | ==== Lightning ==== | ||
The Qur'an states that lighting is a sign shown by god for fear (''khawfan'') and hope (''waṭamaʿan),'' however now we know that lightening is simply an electrical | The Qur'an states that lighting is a sign shown by god for fear (''khawfan'') and hope (''waṭamaʿan),'' however now we know that lightening is simply an electrical phenomena caused by negative and positive charges in clouds or between the cloud and the ground build up and suddenly discharge, creating a bright flash,<ref name=":0">[https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-science-overview Understanding Lightning Science.] Safety. National Weather Service.</ref> (i.e. explained by science), it is difficult to see why it would give people hope. | ||
{{Quote|{{Quran|30|24}}|And among His Signs, He shows you the lightning, by way both of fear and of hope, and He sends down rain from the sky and with it gives life to the earth after it is dead}} | {{Quote|{{Quran|30|24}}|And among His Signs, He shows you the lightning, by way both of fear and of hope, and He sends down rain from the sky and with it gives life to the earth after it is dead}} | ||
=== Inanimate objects and animals worship God === | === Inanimate objects and animals worship God === | ||
Inanimate objects that do not have a consciousness capable of worshipping anything. | Inanimate objects that do not have a consciousness like those with complex brains, so are not capable of worshipping anything. | ||
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|13}}|<b>The Thunder celebrates His praise,</b> and the angels [too], in awe of Him, and He releases the thunderbolts and strikes with them whomever He wishes. Yet they dispute concerning Allah, though He is great in might.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|22|18}}|Have you not regarded that whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth prostrates to Allah, as well as the sun, the moon, and the stars, the mountains, the trees, and the animals and many humans? And many have come to deserve the punishment. Whomever Allah humiliates will find no one who may bring him honour. Indeed Allah does whatever He wishes.}} | {{Quote|{{Quran|13|13}}|<b>The Thunder celebrates His praise,</b> and the angels [too], in awe of Him, and He releases the thunderbolts and strikes with them whomever He wishes. Yet they dispute concerning Allah, though He is great in might.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|22|18}}|Have you not regarded that whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth prostrates to Allah, as well as the sun, the moon, and the stars, the mountains, the trees, and the animals and many humans? And many have come to deserve the punishment. Whomever Allah humiliates will find no one who may bring him honour. Indeed Allah does whatever He wishes.}} | ||
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{{Quote|{{Quran|13|15}}|To Allah prostrates whoever there is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and their shadows at sunrise and sunset.}}Everything in the cosmos (presumably covering the vast amounts of near-empty space and elements) worships and prostrates before him, as does every animal and angel, all allegedly fearing God ({{Quran|16|49-50}} {{Quran|22|18}}), including the birds, which do so while flying ({{Quran|24|41}}), and trees ({{Quran|55|6}}). | {{Quote|{{Quran|13|15}}|To Allah prostrates whoever there is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and their shadows at sunrise and sunset.}}Everything in the cosmos (presumably covering the vast amounts of near-empty space and elements) worships and prostrates before him, as does every animal and angel, all allegedly fearing God ({{Quran|16|49-50}} {{Quran|22|18}}), including the birds, which do so while flying ({{Quran|24|41}}), and trees ({{Quran|55|6}}). | ||
==== Inanimate objects refused the task of being Gods followers, but humans accepted ==== | ==== Inanimate objects refused the task of being Gods followers, but humans accepted ==== | ||
It is hard to know what was meant by this or why Allah would offer an inanimate object with no biology for consciousness | It is hard to know what was meant by this or why Allah would offer an inanimate object with no biology for consciousness that he already knew couldn't answer the task, nor how they refused it. Some classical Islamic commentaries say they could speak at the time.<ref>E.g. Al-Jalalayn on verse [https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Jalal/33.72 33:72]</ref>'''Ibn Kathir doesn't mention that but took it literally).''' | ||
It is hard to see why humans would accept this task with the risk of hell being involved, given our natural propensity for risk aversion as a species.<ref>Kahneman, Daniel, and Amos Tversky. “Prospect Theory: An Analysis of Decision under Risk.” ''Econometrica'', vol. 47, no. 2, 1979, pp. 263–91. ''JSTOR'', <nowiki>https://doi.org/10.2307/1914185</nowiki>. Accessed 14 Feb. 2025. | |||
''''' | See also: Kahneman, D. (2011). ''Thinking, fast and slow.'' ''Chapter 26: Prospect Theory.''</ref>{{Quote|{{Quran|33|72}}|Indeed We presented the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to undertake it and were apprehensive of it; but man undertook it. Indeed he is most unjust and ignorant.}} | ||
{{Quote|{{Quran|33|72}}|Indeed We presented the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to undertake it and were apprehensive of it; but man undertook it. Indeed he is most unjust and ignorant.}} | |||
=== Allah speaks to the heavens/skies and the earth and they respond === | === Allah speaks to the heavens/skies and the earth and they respond === | ||
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|11}}|Then He turned towards the heaven when it was smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’"}} | The sky cannot speak ([[:en:Quran_and_a_Universe_from_Smoke|nor was it ever made of 'smoke']]).{{Quote|{{Quran|41|11}}|Then He turned towards the heaven when it was smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’"}} | ||
*Moreover, all the creatures in heaven or on earth, as a sign of their devotion to the creator, perform this act directly or by means of their shadows (Q 7:206; 13:15; 16:4.8-9; 22:18; 55:6). {{Quran|7|206}}, {{Quran|13|15}} (shadows inc), {{Quran|16|4-9}} (check), | *Moreover, all the creatures in heaven or on earth, as a sign of their devotion to the creator, perform this act directly or by means of their shadows (Q 7:206; 13:15; 16:4.8-9; 22:18; 55:6). {{Quran|7|206}}, {{Quran|13|15}} (shadows inc), {{Quran|16|4-9}} (check), | ||