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"We were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), while he was sitting with a group of his Companions, when they saw a glowing shooting star. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'When you saw the likes of this during Jahiliyyah, what would you say about it?' They said: 'We would say that a great man died, or that a great man has been born.' The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'It is not shot due to the death of anyone, nor his coming into life. Rather when our Lord [Blessed is His Name and Most High] decrees a matter, He is glorified by the bearers of the Throne. Then He is glorified by the inhabitants who are below them, then those below them, until such glorification reaches this Heaven. Then the inhabitants of the sixth Heaven ask the inhabitants of the seventh Heaven: "What did your Lord say?" He said: 'So they inform them; then the inhabitants of each Heaven seek the information, until the news is conveyed to the inhabitants of the Heavens of the earth. The Shayatin try to overhear so they are shot at, so they cast it down to their friends. Whatever they came with is true, as it is, but they distort it and add to it.'"}}
"We were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), while he was sitting with a group of his Companions, when they saw a glowing shooting star. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'When you saw the likes of this during Jahiliyyah, what would you say about it?' They said: 'We would say that a great man died, or that a great man has been born.' The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'It is not shot due to the death of anyone, nor his coming into life. Rather when our Lord [Blessed is His Name and Most High] decrees a matter, He is glorified by the bearers of the Throne. Then He is glorified by the inhabitants who are below them, then those below them, until such glorification reaches this Heaven. Then the inhabitants of the sixth Heaven ask the inhabitants of the seventh Heaven: "What did your Lord say?" He said: 'So they inform them; then the inhabitants of each Heaven seek the information, until the news is conveyed to the inhabitants of the Heavens of the earth. The Shayatin try to overhear so they are shot at, so they cast it down to their friends. Whatever they came with is true, as it is, but they distort it and add to it.'"}}


Once again the Quran seems to think that shooting stars and stars are the same basic phenomenon.  
Once again the the Islamic sources seem to think that shooting stars and stars are the same basic phenomenon.  


In both cases we see the word (najm/نجم) is used to describe the shooting star. Literally: رُمِيَ was thrown<ref>رمي - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000327.pdf Lane's Lexicon page 1161]</ref> بِنَجْمٍ a star<ref>نجم - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000282.pdf Lane's Lexicon Supplement page 3028]</ref> فَاسْتَنَارَ then it flamed<ref>نار - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000119.pdf Lane's Lexicon page 2865]</ref> (نار in Arabic form X, derived from نور light). It is sometimes said that a najm (نجم) could refer to any kind of celestial body (without any reference to a classical Arabic dictionary)<ref>[https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/243871 Meteorites and shooting stars may be called “stars” (nujoom) and “heavenly bodies” (kawaakib) in Arabic.] IslamQA. 2016.
In both cases we see the word (najm/نجم) is used to describe the shooting star. Literally: رُمِيَ was thrown<ref>رمي - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000327.pdf Lane's Lexicon page 1161]</ref> بِنَجْمٍ a star<ref>نجم - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000282.pdf Lane's Lexicon Supplement page 3028]</ref> فَاسْتَنَارَ then it flamed<ref>نار - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000119.pdf Lane's Lexicon page 2865]</ref> (استنار in Arabic form X, derived from نور light). It is sometimes said that a najm (نجم) could refer to any kind of celestial body (without any reference to a classical Arabic dictionary)<ref>[https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/243871 Meteorites and shooting stars may be called “stars” (nujoom) and “heavenly bodies” (kawaakib) in Arabic.] IslamQA. 2016.


See Lane's Lexicon Classical Arabic Dictionary of [https://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000282.pdf Najm, Volume 8, pages: 282] </ref> and not necessarily a star, but it is at least clear that these hadiths refer to what we now understand are visible meteors.
See Lane's Lexicon Classical Arabic Dictionary of [https://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000282.pdf Najm, Volume 8, pages: 282] </ref> and not necessarily a star, but it is at least clear that these hadiths refer to what we now understand are visible meteors.
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{{Quote|(Translation by Paul Smith in) <i>Anthology of Classical Arabic Poetry (From Pre-Islamic Times to Ibn ‘Arabi).</i> New Humanity Books. Kindle Edition. Locations 4668 - 4680|...Some stars wander far, others are fixed; falling ones flame, God makes them to throw at rebel satans who His Paradise are approaching… those who might move with stealth to listen in… by being closer, encounter a star’s flaming fire that’s always waiting to be shooting...}}
{{Quote|(Translation by Paul Smith in) <i>Anthology of Classical Arabic Poetry (From Pre-Islamic Times to Ibn ‘Arabi).</i> New Humanity Books. Kindle Edition. Locations 4668 - 4680|...Some stars wander far, others are fixed; falling ones flame, God makes them to throw at rebel satans who His Paradise are approaching… those who might move with stealth to listen in… by being closer, encounter a star’s flaming fire that’s always waiting to be shooting...}}


== Versus modern science ==
== Comparison with modern science ==
As mentioned in the introduction, while stars are giant balls of gas thousands of times larger than the earth, meteors are now known to be distinct from the distant stars, being small rocky masses or grains of debris which burn up after entering the earth's atmosphere. This debris is not even 'star-like', but just rocks, metal and dust with no light source, and therefore cannot accurately be said to match the description of 'lamps'.  
As mentioned in the introduction, while stars are giant balls of gas thousands of times larger than the earth, meteors are now known to be distinct from the distant stars, being small rocky masses or grains of debris which burn up after entering the earth's atmosphere. This debris is not even 'star-like', but just rocks, metal and dust with no light source, and therefore cannot accurately be said to match the description of 'lamps'.  


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The results of many stellar size measurements over the years have shown that most nearby stars are roughly the size of the Sun, with typical diameters of a million kilometers or so.<ref>Lumen Learning. Astronomy. ''[https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-astronomy/chapter/diameters-of-stars/ The Stars: A Celestial Census. Diameters of Stars.]''</ref> An example of a calculation to demonstrate the size of this, is the sun can fit around 22 billion billion billion (10^28) people in, with the full workings found in this [https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-can-fit-in-the-sun Quora answer] as an estimate. This of course makes them absurdly large to be used as an object to be thrown by angels at jinn, both of which are approximately human size and visit Earth.  
The results of many stellar size measurements over the years have shown that most nearby stars are roughly the size of the Sun, with typical diameters of a million kilometers or so.<ref>Lumen Learning. Astronomy. ''[https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-astronomy/chapter/diameters-of-stars/ The Stars: A Celestial Census. Diameters of Stars.]''</ref> An example of a calculation to demonstrate the size of this, is the sun can fit around 22 billion billion billion (10^28) people in, with the full workings found in this [https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-can-fit-in-the-sun Quora answer] as an estimate. This of course makes them absurdly large to be used as an object to be thrown by angels at jinn, both of which are approximately human size and visit Earth.  


Also, stars do not actually 'burn' or cause flame which is caused by chemical burning on Earth needing oxygen.<ref>''[https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth/ Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth.]'' New Scientist. 2020. Philip Ball.</ref> Stars create energy via nuclear fusion instead with no flames unlike those mentioned in the Qur'anic verses.  
Also, stars do not actually 'burn' or cause flame in the same way that flame does, which is caused by chemical burning on Earth needing oxygen.<ref>''[https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth/ Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth.]'' New Scientist. 2020. Philip Ball.</ref> Stars create energy via nuclear fusion instead with no flames unlike those mentioned in the Qur'anic verses.  


However, these verses would of course fit a relatively small universe as imagined by 7th century Arabs, in which a heavenly firmament is adorned with small stars which appear relatively close to each other, able to pelt shooting stars at any devils or jinn in their vicinity, seeming to cover visible interstellar distances in a flaming streak across the sky.  
However, these verses would of course fit a relatively small universe as imagined by 7th century Arabs, in which a heavenly firmament is adorned with small stars which appear relatively close to each other, able to pelt shooting stars at any devils or jinn in their vicinity, seeming to cover visible interstellar distances in a flaming streak across the sky. The description of them as burning lamps evinces lack of understanding of the vacuum of space. 


==Modern Apologetic interpretations==
==Modern Apologetic interpretations==
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</ref> which eventually go on to become the sources of debris which can become meteors.  
</ref> which eventually go on to become the sources of debris which can become meteors.  


However, there are objections to this interpretation.
This interpretation is not without issue vis-a-vis modern science.  


1. Qur'an does not state that the shooting stars 'come from stars' (mostly many billions of years ago), which would be very easy to do - so put bluntly this isn't what is being said in the text. It is the stars themselves that are a protection and are thrown. I.e. you state that something is a missile, all rules of grammar and logic lead you to assume that it's the thing that is mentioned that is the missile, not something that part of it get its elements from after going through many other processes to become billions of years later.  
1. The Qur'an does not state that the shooting stars 'come from stars' (mostly many billions of years ago), which would be very easy to do - so to put it bluntly this isn't what is being said in the text. It is the stars themselves that are a protection and are thrown. Grammatically, the Qur'an uses a verb with them meaning "to throw" and uses vocabulary which is meant to evoke the image of people using stones to stone a person to death.


2. Meteors do not even come directly from stars, but rather form asteroids and comets either hitting earth or occasionally breaking into Mars or the Moon, with the debris getting burned up in Earths atmosphere (''again, see: [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-shooting-stars/ The Scientific American. The Science of Shooting Stars. 2023. Phil Plait.] for a further explanation of the science''). It is only true to say all the elements which make up everything (and not just space debris) in the universe were once part of a star.
2. Meteors do not even come directly from stars, but rather form asteroids and comets either hitting earth or occasionally breaking into Mars or the Moon, with the debris getting burned up in Earths atmosphere (''again, see: [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-shooting-stars/ The Scientific American. The Science of Shooting Stars. 2023. Phil Plait.] for a further explanation of the science''). It is only true to say all the elements which make up everything (and not just space debris) in the universe were once part of a star.


3. In light of the previous point, naming stars/lamps/constellations as a protection is a totally pointless link to make as they have nothing to do with the story, which should focus only on the flames if meteors were what was being mentioned. The stars could have been described as being made for anything else in the universe as they create heavy elements for everything, yet they only are in this context where it is easy for humans to confuse the two.  
3. There is no textual evidence to suggest the Qur'anic author is here describing falling stars as coming from elemental fusion reactions in actual stars.


4. If it meant something like the unknown sources of meteors at the time, it easily could have used another of the many words for objects/things in the heavens rather than those which have a different meaning. Or a generic term such as 'ajrām as-samāwiyya/ الأجرام السماوية' for 'heavenly bodies', which can be used to cover all things in the sky (and therefore cover the unknown debris), without using words specifically designated to stars.
4. If it meant something like the unknown sources of meteors at the time, it easily could have used another of the many words for objects/things in the heavens rather than those which have a different meaning. Or a generic term such as 'ajrām as-samāwiyya/ الأجرام السماوية' for 'heavenly bodies', which can be used to cover all things in the sky (and therefore cover the unknown debris), without using words specifically designated to stars.


In other words, this has involved twisting the text into something that isn't there.  
There is simply no textual basis for this apologetic interpretation.
===Cosmic rays===
===Cosmic rays===
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_A'la_Maududi Abul Ala-Maududi] (d. 1979 AD) also wrote:{{Quote|{{cite web| url=https://myislam.org/surah-al-hijr/ayat-18/ | title= Tasfir Abul Ala-Maududi 15.18}}|In Arabic the word shihab-i-mubin literally means a fiery flame. In Surah (Surah As-Saffat, Ayat 10), the same thing has been called shihab-i-thaqib (flame that pierces through darkness). <b>This may or may not necessarily be a meteor for it is just possible that it may be some type of rays such as cosmic rays or even a stronger type which we have not been able to discover as yet. </b>Anyhow, if the fiery flame that pursues Satans may be taken to be a meteor, a countless number of these can form a fortification around our sphere of the universe. Scientific observations made with the help of the telescope have shown that billions of these meteors are rushing from space in a mass of rainfall. towards the earth’s atmosphere. Such a scene was witnessed in an eastern pan of North America on November 13, 1833. This is so strong a fortification that it can prevent Satans from passing through any fortified sphere.}}''Note: the meteor shower being referred to here Leonid Meteor Storm, where fragments of ice, rock, and dust left behind by the Comet Tempel-Tuttle. About every 33 years, the Leonid meteor shower intensifies, increasing the possibility of a dazzling display of lights.<ref>''[https://blog.newspapers.com/november-12-13-1833-the-night-the-stars-fell/ November 12-13, 1833: The Night the Stars Fell.] Newspapers.com. 2022. Jenny Ashcraft.''</ref> This comes from a predictable pattern of material left behind by the comet entering earths atmosphere and burning up,<ref>Royal Museums Greenwich. ''[https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/leonid-meteor-shower-when-and-where-see-it-uk When and where to see the Leonid meteor shower.]''</ref> they do not actually form a flame in space which is impossible due to there being no oxygen.<ref>''[https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth.]'' New Scientist. 2020. Philip Ball.</ref>''
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_A'la_Maududi Abul Ala-Maududi] (d. 1979 AD) also wrote:{{Quote|{{cite web| url=https://myislam.org/surah-al-hijr/ayat-18/ | title= Tasfir Abul Ala-Maududi 15.18}}|In Arabic the word shihab-i-mubin literally means a fiery flame. In Surah (Surah As-Saffat, Ayat 10), the same thing has been called shihab-i-thaqib (flame that pierces through darkness). <b>This may or may not necessarily be a meteor for it is just possible that it may be some type of rays such as cosmic rays or even a stronger type which we have not been able to discover as yet. </b>Anyhow, if the fiery flame that pursues Satans may be taken to be a meteor, a countless number of these can form a fortification around our sphere of the universe. Scientific observations made with the help of the telescope have shown that billions of these meteors are rushing from space in a mass of rainfall. towards the earth’s atmosphere. Such a scene was witnessed in an eastern pan of North America on November 13, 1833. This is so strong a fortification that it can prevent Satans from passing through any fortified sphere.}}''Note: the meteor shower being referred to here Leonid Meteor Storm, where fragments of ice, rock, and dust left behind by the Comet Tempel-Tuttle. About every 33 years, the Leonid meteor shower intensifies, increasing the possibility of a dazzling display of lights.<ref>''[https://blog.newspapers.com/november-12-13-1833-the-night-the-stars-fell/ November 12-13, 1833: The Night the Stars Fell.] Newspapers.com. 2022. Jenny Ashcraft.''</ref> This comes from a predictable pattern of material left behind by the comet entering earths atmosphere and burning up,<ref>Royal Museums Greenwich. ''[https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/leonid-meteor-shower-when-and-where-see-it-uk When and where to see the Leonid meteor shower.]''</ref> they do not actually form a flame in space which is impossible due to there being no oxygen.<ref>''[https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth.]'' New Scientist. 2020. Philip Ball.</ref>''
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There is also nothing said of their function of holding planetary systems together,<ref>NASA Science. Astrophysics. Focus Areas. ''[https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/how-do-stars-form-and-evolve/ Stars.]''</ref> which could have easily been done by the differentiation of fixed stars from moving stars, and shown genuine scientific foreknowledge.
There is also nothing said of their function of holding planetary systems together,<ref>NASA Science. Astrophysics. Focus Areas. ''[https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/how-do-stars-form-and-evolve/ Stars.]''</ref> which could have easily been done by the differentiation of fixed stars from moving stars, and shown genuine scientific foreknowledge.


The fact that the Quran labels stars as rujūman (رُجُومًا)<ref>رُجُومًا - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000214.pdf Lane's Lexicon p. 1048]</ref> 'things that are thrown', seemingly by approximately human-sized angels at human-sized jinn. Along with verses {{Quran|81|2}} saying stars will 'fall/dart down' (inkadarat ٱنكَدَرَتْ)<ref>[https://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume7/00000124.pdf Lane's Lexicon p. 2596] - ٱنكَدَرَتْ</ref> on judgement day, which has been taken to mean fall onto Earth by major classical commentators,<ref>''[https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Jalal/81.2 Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Verse 81.2.]'' Jalal al-Din al-Mahalli (d. 864 ah / 1459 ce) and his pupil Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti (d. 911 ah / 1505 ce).</ref><ref>[https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Abbas/81.2 ''Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs Verse 81.2''.] Ibn Abbas. Unknown date.</ref> <ref>''[https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=1&tSoraNo=81&tAyahNo=2&tDisplay=yes&Page=2&Size=1&LanguageId=1 Tafsir of Al-Tabari on verse 81.2]''. Al-Tabari. b ~839 d. 923</ref> heavily implies another scientific error; in that the author thought stars were much smaller than they really are, as they appear from Earth, when in reality they're often millions of kilometres wide.<ref>''[https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-astronomy/chapter/diameters-of-stars/ Diameters of Stars]''. The Stars: A Celestial Census. Astronomy. lumenlearning.com</ref>
The fact that the Quran labels stars as rujūman (رُجُومًا)<ref>رُجُومًا - [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000214.pdf Lane's Lexicon p. 1048]</ref> 'things that are thrown', seemingly by approximately human-sized angels at human-sized jinn, along with verses {{Quran|81|2}} saying stars will 'fall/dart down' (inkadarat ٱنكَدَرَتْ)<ref>[https://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume7/00000124.pdf Lane's Lexicon p. 2596] - ٱنكَدَرَتْ</ref> on judgement day, which has been taken to mean fall onto Earth by major classical commentators,<ref>''[https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Jalal/81.2 Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Verse 81.2.]'' Jalal al-Din al-Mahalli (d. 864 ah / 1459 ce) and his pupil Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti (d. 911 ah / 1505 ce).</ref><ref>[https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Abbas/81.2 ''Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs Verse 81.2''.] Ibn Abbas. Unknown date.</ref> <ref>''[https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=1&tSoraNo=81&tAyahNo=2&tDisplay=yes&Page=2&Size=1&LanguageId=1 Tafsir of Al-Tabari on verse 81.2]''. Al-Tabari. b ~839 d. 923</ref> heavily implies another scientific error; in that the author thought stars were much smaller than they really are, as they appear from Earth, when in reality they're often millions of kilometres wide.<ref>''[https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-astronomy/chapter/diameters-of-stars/ Diameters of Stars]''. The Stars: A Celestial Census. Astronomy. lumenlearning.com</ref>


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