Talk:Yagmur Dursun (former Muslim)
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Hi Barbar, there's probably no way to contact them unless they have an email address/website link on the page etc. --Axius (talk) 16:38, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
- No stonings in Turkey? Before vandalizing a testimony, try a simple Google search. Here you go: 'Honor' Killings in Turkey Defy Efforts to End Them (archive) And WikiIslam is not a "meetup" or place for people to spam their contact information. Thanks. --Sahab (talk) 12:01, 11 September 2013 (PDT)
- hey, I'm not vandalizing. I think you misunderstood me. I am an atheist and I don't think "stoning" happens in turkey; however I am willing to be convinced otherwise. I am pretty sure honor killing and stoning are not the same things. I wanted to talk to Yagmur because I wanted to confirm her story and have her voice be heard.
- Accusing a person with no knowledge of him/her doesn't help anybody. Thanks. --Barbar barbaros (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2013 (PDT)
- "hey, I'm not vandalizing."
- You inserted your comment into someone's testimony. Your comment (which essentially is accusing the writer of lying) is not a part of that testimony. So, yes you are vandalizing.
- "I think you misunderstood me. I am an atheist"
- No I did not. And what difference does being an atheist make to that fact?
- "I don't think "stoning" happens in turkey; however I am willing to be convinced otherwise."
- The link I provided proves it does happen in Turkey, so no you're not "willing to be convinced otherwise"
- "I am pretty sure honor killing and stoning are not the same things."
- Of course they're not. "Honor killing" partly defines the reason, "stoning" defines the method. What part of that do you not understand? Try to actually read that NY Times news story and then read that testimony again. They're pretty consistent. If you "can't believe" the stuff described in the testimony happen in Turkey, it would mean you "can't believe" the stuff described in the NY Times story happen in Turkey, because they pretty much agree on many points, including the fact that stonings happen in Turkey. Maybe Hila Acil and Cemse Allak weren't really stoned to death and are in hiding? Maybe the doctors, police, judges and the NY Times are behind a giant conspiracy? Somehow I doubt it.
- "Accusing a person with no knowledge of him/her doesn't help anybody. Thanks."
- I don't need to know you to know that what you did was vandalism. And I don't really care what excuse you give for doing it. Would you insert a question into a Wikipedia article and think it is okay? Of course you would not, because it would be obvious that it is not appropriate. Thanks. --Sahab (talk) 17:44, 11 September 2013 (PDT)