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In summation, Faizi “derived” this version of the sermon from various unnamed books not accepted by the ulema (scholarly Muslim clerics). He does not know the original sources, but welcomes readers to help in his search.  
In summation, Faizi “derived” this version of the sermon from various unnamed books not accepted by the ulema (scholarly Muslim clerics). He does not know the original sources, but welcomes readers to help in his search.  


References which are often cited as sources for this fraudulent sermon, once checked, are either misrepresented (i.e. they have nothing to say on the sermon)<ref>See [{{Reference archive|1=http://bjhollingum.blogspot.com/2010/05/farewell-sermon.html|2=2011-03-01}} this] blog post titled, "The Farewell Sermon", for more details.</ref> or in fact refer to the sermon that most fits al-Tabari's rendition.<ref>For example; [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.quranandscience.com/jewels-from-prophet/240-the-last-sermon-khutbah-of-prophet-muhammad-farewell-sermon.html|2=2011-06-11}} this site] lists al-Tirmidhi as one of the sources. However in Tirmidhi we find the farewell command to beat women, and that they are "like prisoners" in the hands of men. For further details, see: [[The Farewell Sermon#Related Text|The Farewell Sermon/ Related Text]]</ref>
Hadith references which are often cited as sources for this fraudulent sermon, once checked, are either misrepresented (i.e. they have nothing to say on the sermon)<ref>See [{{Reference archive|1=http://bjhollingum.blogspot.com/2010/05/farewell-sermon.html|2=2011-03-01}} this] blog post titled, "The Farewell Sermon", for more details.</ref> or in fact refer to the sermon that most fits al-Tabari's rendition.<ref>For example; [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.quranandscience.com/jewels-from-prophet/240-the-last-sermon-khutbah-of-prophet-muhammad-farewell-sermon.html|2=2011-06-11}} this site] lists al-Tirmidhi as one of the sources. However in Tirmidhi we find the farewell command to beat women, and that they are "like prisoners" in the hands of men. For further details, see: [[The Farewell Sermon#Related Text|The Farewell Sermon/ Related Text]]</ref>


The following [[The Farewell Sermon|authentic version]] is taken from ''al-Tabari, Vol IX'', and it's important to note that it is in perfect agreement with the Qur'anic order of wife-beating in {{Quran|4|34}}. Attempts to add this authentic version next to the other two at Wikipedia, had been met with resistance.<ref>After an April 2011 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Khutbatul_Wada%27&oldid=427586954 Wikipedia discussion] concerning the lack of primary sources for the fraudulent sermons, they were finally removed from the site. But, as is often the case with Islam-related articles, the unreferenced material is constantly reinserted by Muslim editors.</ref>
The following [[The Farewell Sermon|authentic version]] is taken from ''al-Tabari, Vol IX'', and it's important to note that it is in perfect agreement with the Qur'anic order of wife-beating in {{Quran|4|34}}. Attempts to add this authentic version next to the other two at Wikipedia, had been met with resistance.<ref>After an April 2011 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Khutbatul_Wada%27&oldid=427586954 Wikipedia discussion] concerning the lack of primary sources for the fraudulent sermons, they were finally removed from the site. But, as is often the case with Islam-related articles, the unreferenced material is constantly reinserted by Muslim editors.</ref>
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