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4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. <br> | 4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. <br> | ||
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. <br> | 5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. <br> | ||
:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational. | |||
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example). | |||
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all. | |||
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that. | |||
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way: | |||
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT) | |||
== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an == | == Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an == | ||