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Even though these Hadiths are all deemed '[[sahih]]' (authentic) according to Islamic scholars, some apologists will deny them without any valid reason other than for their anti-scientific nature. Of course the Hadiths, at the very least, indicate what Muslims around the time of Muhammad (or not long after his demise) believed about the sun and how to interpret the Qur'an correctly. | Even though these Hadiths are all deemed '[[sahih]]' (authentic) according to Islamic scholars, some apologists will deny them without any valid reason other than for their anti-scientific nature. Of course the Hadiths, at the very least, indicate what Muslims around the time of Muhammad (or not long after his demise) believed about the sun and how to interpret the Qur'an correctly. | ||
Finally, a comment from ibn Abbas is recorded in the tafsir of ibn Kathir for verse {{Quran|21|33}} about the sun and moon each having a falak. This comment is mistranslated on the popular online translation of ibn Kathir as follows: | |||
{{Quote|1=[http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2645&Itemid=76 Tafsir ibn Kathir for 21:33]<br>Online English translation|2=Ibn `Abbas said, "They revolve like a spinning wheel, in a circle.".}} | |||
The mistranslation is even used by some Muslims for various apologetics relating to the sun's course. In fact, the hadith actually provides further evidence for the correct, hemispherical understanding of the sun's falak in the Qur'an. | |||
The words in Arabic actually say | |||
{{Quote|1=[http://quran.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=221&BookID=11&Page=1 Tafsir ibn Kathir for 21:33 (arabic)]<Br>(Select surah 21 and ayah 33)|2=قَالَ اِبْن عَبَّاس يَدُورُونَ كَمَا يَدُور الْمِغْزَل فِي الْفَلْكَة}} | |||
This literally translates to, "Ibn Abbas said, 'Spinning like as spins the spindle in a whirl'. As mentioned at the very beginning of this article, and as described in Lane's lexicon definition for falak on page 2444, a spindle whirl was a hemispherical object. Lane even specifically defines on the page the precise things mentions by ibn Abbas, "the falka of the mighzal" is "the whirl of a spindle". He describes it thus: "it is a piece of wood, generally of a hemispherical form, or nearly so, through the middle of which the upper part of the spindle-pin is inserted".<ref name="LanesLexiconFalak"></ref> | |||
Thus, the Qur'an describes both the sun and the moon as floating round in celestial hemispheres. | |||
==Conclusion== | ==Conclusion== | ||