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The following hadith, where Umar attempts to limit the [[Mahr]], is sometimes used to claim that women were politically and socially active in early Islamic societies.
The following hadith, where Umar attempts to limit the [[Mahr]], is sometimes used to claim that women were politically and socially active in early Islamic societies.


{{Quote||'Umar ibn al-Khattab...stated that if anyone pays more as dower than what the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to pay, he would put that excess amount in the Public Treasury. A woman from the Quraish came to him and said, "O commander of the Faithful, does the Book of Allah have more right to be followed or your statement? He said, "The Book of Allah." So she then told him, "You have just prohibited the people from giving an excessive amount for dower but Allah has stated in His Book,"And if you have given them a great amount of gold as dower, take not the least bit of it back.'" [4:20] And then 'Umar said two or three times, "Everybody has a better understanding than 'Umar." [Other narrations state, "The Woman is correct and 'Umar is mistaken." - Footnote] Then he got back on the minbar and said, "O people, I used to forbid you from being excessive with respect to the dower of women. Verily a man may do whatever he sees fit with his wealth."<ref name="Umar">al-Bashir - [{{Reference archive|1=http://web.archive.org/web/20040610170517/http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4222/umar_corr.html|2=2011-11-20}} The Story of 'Umar Being Corrected by a Woman] - at-Taqwa, June 10, 2004 </ref><ref name="Umar2">[http://www.allaahuakbar.net/ahaadeeth/weak_fabricated_and_baatil_ahaadeeth.htm Weak ; Fabricated, Rejected & False Ahaadeeth] - Allaahuakbar.net</ref>}}
{{Quote||'Umar ibn al-Khattab...stated that if anyone pays more as dower than what the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to pay, he would put that excess amount in the Public Treasury. A woman from the Quraish came to him and said, "O commander of the Faithful, does the Book of Allah have more right to be followed or your statement? He said, "The Book of Allah." So she then told him, "You have just prohibited the people from giving an excessive amount for dower but Allah has stated in His Book,"And if you have given them a great amount of gold as dower, take not the least bit of it back.'" [4:20] And then 'Umar said two or three times, "Everybody has a better understanding than 'Umar." [Other narrations state, "The Woman is correct and 'Umar is mistaken." - Footnote] Then he got back on the minbar and said, "O people, I used to forbid you from being excessive with respect to the dower of women. Verily a man may do whatever he sees fit with his wealth."<ref name="Umar">al-Bashir - [{{Reference archive|1=http://web.archive.org/web/20040610170517/http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4222/umar_corr.html|2=2011-11-20}} The Story of 'Umar Being Corrected by a Woman] - at-Taqwa, June 10, 2004 </ref><ref name="Umar2">{{cite web|url= http://www.allaahuakbar.net/ahaadeeth/32.htm|title= Da'eef (Weak) No:32 The Story of 'Umar Being Corrected by a Woman|publisher= Allaahuakbar.net|author= |date= accessed August 23, 2011|archiveurl= http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20110823032951%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.allaahuakbar.net%2Fahaadeeth%2F32.htm&date=2014-03-16|deadurl=yes}}</ref>}}


This hadith has been classed as da`if (weak). It also contradicts authentic hadith which state Umar did in fact limit excessive payments of Mahr.
This hadith has been classed as da`if (weak). It also contradicts authentic hadith which state Umar did in fact limit excessive payments of Mahr.
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