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→‎Arabian idols from the time of Noah: Added 'Wadd' being confirmed an Arabian God close to the time of Muhammad rather than Noah. And expanded Q71:26 for more context.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: Added some more Noah verses implying a worldwide flood - with later prophets being Noah's descendants.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: Added another relevant Noah verse noting Moses is a descendent, which along with the above verses adds to the evidence the flood is global.

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→‎Unknown religion in the Qur'an: Added this section as I believe its relevant in that we can see that many stories of prophets in the Qur'an come from much later writings than the biblical versions - making the chance of them being historically accurate even lower.

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→‎Hāmān in ancient Egypt: Have added in more evidence and explanation between Haman and ancient Persian elements (incorrectly) moved into ancient Egypt - from Adam Silverstein's work, highlighting the historical issues.

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→‎Unknown words in the Quran: Added another reference to an article on the false ascribing of unknown words to earlier Islamic figures in exegetical reports by Joshua Little.

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→‎Pharoah as a name and not a title: Sharpened up previous post slightly to make the point and wording clearer :)

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→‎The singular Pharaoh: Added the mistake of the pharaoh being a name not a title

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→‎Mecca as a safe sanctuary: Added another historical error int he Moses talks of previous kings among his people in the Qur'an narrative, before Israel existed.

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→‎The Children of Israel in Egypt: Have added in the 'double whammy' historical error of the Israelites inheriting Egypt in the Qur'an along with Israel. Have provided academic references as well as for the reason this error occurred.

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→‎The Historical Jesus: Added a similar section on John the Baptist - highlighting that secular scholarship also considers him along with Jesus to have preached that the apocalypse was at hand - not matching the Qur'anic version.

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→‎The Historical Jesus: Added a similar section on John the Baptist - highlighting that secular scholarship also considers him along with Jesus to have preached that the apocalypse was at hand - not matching the Qur'anic version.

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→‎The Historical Jesus: Added a small section to strengthen the point on Jesus's Ethical teachings and their apocalyptic context, Academic references provided.

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→‎Surah of the elephant: I have added a section on the historical Jesus, with historical-critical research from biblical scholars not matching the Qur'anic version. So far I have covered 1 consensus aspect (imminent apocalypse), though I certainly plan to add more including apocalyptic teachings, John the Baptist, and other incompatible early beliefs. I've left longer footnotes than usual as it's a topic not many will be familiar with - so please let me know if you want them shortened. Thanks

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→‎Countable currency in ancient Egypt: Added two academic sources for ancient Egyptian anachronisms - from Sean W Anthony's Reddit AMA on r/AcademicQuran.

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→‎Surah of the elephant: Fixed minor typos.

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→‎Surah of the elephant: Added some minor changes to improve clarity.

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→‎Suliman's missing kingdom: Have added a section on the elephant of Surah of the Elephant (and all surrounding Islamic traditions) being a legend.

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→‎Massive wall of iron: Have added in the separate historical error for Dhul-Qarnayn being monotheist under building the iron wall. And added a minor references for the word dirham and said 'former' Hymarite kingdom (as technically it wasn't called that by the time of Muhammad any more - even though the point still stands and it was a Jewish/Christian Kingdom to the South of Mecca with large Arabian peninsular influence so relevant to mention).

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→‎Unknown words in the Quran: Expanded this section, furthering the point with the unknown meaning/identity of Sabaeans in the Quran, and the issue's it poses for the traditional account being taken as real history.

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→‎Massive wall of iron: Have added in the 'yawm' meaning 'day' reference/citation as well as the full context of the other 'trumpet blowing' verses showing that they only happen on judgement day.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: I have expanded the names of popular traditional scholars out a bit to highlight the point.

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→‎Unknown words in the Quran: Added another academic reference on the issue of unknown words and their ambiguity to commentators on the Quran.

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→‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: I have added an academic reference to when the mentioned Mosque was built, as well as a point about it not being the furthest place of worship at the time of Muhammad, with references.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: Added the missing linked Quran verse.

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→‎The Battle of Badr: Added some more academic notes on the issues with traditions relating to the battle of Badr.

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→‎Regarding the Traditional Historical Account of the Quran's Origins: have added two more issue's with the Quran's traditional account, citing Michael Cook (Islamic scholar).

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→‎The Battle of Badr: Expanded the Tom Holland quote to give more context to general historical issues of later traditions.

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→‎Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet: Added a section on historicity issues with 'The Battle of Badr' interpretations.

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→‎Regarding ancient religious doctrine: Added a section on the claim that the 'most ancient' scriptures contain warnings of hell verses the academic consensus of a later development.

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→‎Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet: As discussed: added a reference for the interchangeability of the word 'people' with 'town/city/village' in the Quran in the context of warner's.

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→‎Destroyed towns nearby Mecca

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→‎Regarding the Traditional Historical Account of the Quran's Origins: Added another point on the 'Destroyed towns nearby Mecca' and referenced.

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→‎Sodom and Gomorrah being located near Mecca and Medina: Added in a small section on the verse about The Romans being defeated in a nearby land and the questions that has raised some academics.

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Added in a section on historical issues on the Origins of the Quran and the traditional Islamic account which I think best suits this page.

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Have added a historical error on the (well-known in biblical studies) lack of archaeological record for Suliman's great Kingdom, and cited academic sources. The Smithsonian article linked provides the relevant quotes from Aren Maeir, and The Bible Unearthed (Israel Finkelstein/Neil Asher Silberman)

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→‎Regarding general history: Also added in the extra relevant Quran verses.

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→‎Massive wall of iron: Added in text to get this to match the scientific errors page version with extra context on the angels trumpets blowing on judgement day added, and a link to the main Dhul Qarnayn - Alexander Romance article.

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I have added in a historical error section on 'Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet' and the (huge) lack of evidence for this claim. Plus two relevant YouTube videos to two topics on this page (Noah and Christology in the Quran).

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→‎Haman in ancient Egypt: Added a new potential historical error, with Mecca being sworn on as a safe sanctuary.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: Have added in some more verses on the story of Noah relevant for it being a worldwide flood. And made the point that all classical scholars took it to refer to a worldwide flood citing a range of the most popular exegesis. Plus provided a link/source from an modern geologist academic providing an overview of the geological issues of a worldwide flood.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood

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→‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: Added in a short section on the seemingly misplaced biblical Haman from the Persian Empire to the Egyptian story in the Quran

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Rejected the last text change (by CPO675) and restored revision 137181 by Lightyears: This is not an error in the Quran but rather potentially a problem for traditional Islamic history. You may wish to add it as a new section on the Lut page instead.

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→‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: Have added a section on the historical problem of the Qur'an referring to it's listeners as being near the destroyed towns of Lut's preaching, and have quoted (and linked) to Patricia Crone's article on this matter.

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→‎Crucifixions in ancient Egypt

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→‎Mary as part of the Trinity

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→‎Samaritans in ancient Egypt